Yes. Given the state of scientific knowledge on global warming, and how they ("skeptics") have for years now clearly lost all of their last gasp arguments ("the pause", "hide the decline", "it's all urban heat island effects" etc), there's really no point in trying to convince people who are absorbed in ridiculous conspiracy belief systems - which climate change denial now is - to move out of the way. Governments just have to move around them.
That's not to say that they shouldn't be forthright about telling people they need to come to their senses. It's just that it need not be done in any polite "I respect your opinion, but it's wrong" sort of way.
:It's just that it need not be done in any polite "I respect your opinion, but it's wrong" sort of way.
ReplyDeleteWe're doomed. Amazing how even if one entertains claims of election miscounts or fraud that does not equal therefore Trump won; yet that is the conclusion people are drawing.
I give up Steve because there is so much twaddle about climate change. Public debate is no longer about truth it is purely about rhetorical tactics to achieve the strategic aim of convincing enough people so that sufficient momentum can be built to fulfil political ambitions. Now it is purely about power and that creates a very dangerous zeitgeist.
Well, I can't work out where exactly you are coming from with that comment, John.
ReplyDeleteRe climate change, there is active pushback from the established big names in the field against climate doom-ism if it appears in some papers. This recent example:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/science/op-ed-game-over-climate-change-research-gets-massive-flak/article/581122
So that example shows, I think, that there is a "mainstream" view that is not all about rhetorical tactics, as if it were.
Steve my comment was direct at the skeptics, possibly driven because for the first time last night I tried watching Alan Jones on Sky News where he suggested the BOM was fudging the temperatures. Sure Alan, because they've fudged the temperatures the Arctic ice freeze is so slow this year. It's incredible how the skeptics throw out these claims that have nothing to do with the science, it is all just some vast left wing conspiracy as is the pandemic. They are engaging in pure propaganda or have rocks in their head, possibly both.
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