Nonetheless, I find it difficult to not marvel at the stupidity of the libertarian response to the Grenfell fire, with people like Stoat (who is on the right side of climate change, but otherwise likes to take contrarian positions on various things) saying things like:
But buildings *are* very heavily regulated. They are not “deregulated”. This can just as easily be seen as a failure of the “regulate everything and all will be well” approachAnd he cites Tim Worstall:
So, layer upon layer of intrusive regulation and government made this happen.As someone says in response to Worstall:
The solution is more layers of intrusive government and regulation. That’ll work, won’t it?
I don’t know, but what do you suggest as an alternative? Fewer fire regulations? No fire regulations?And someone back at Stoats writes:
Timmy’s argument is ludicrous: the Graun describes how the designers and builders failed to comply with the building regulation requirement that “the external envelope of a building should not provide a medium for fire spread”, and other factors contributed to the death toll. Timmy jumps to:The other ludicrous line that some on the Right are running is that the building was only clad in flammable cladding because of Green/climate change regulations for insulation. (Some have been trying to bring EU regulation into it too - which hardly makes any sense if it is true that Germany does not allow the use of this material on its buildings.)
“So, layer upon layer of intrusive regulation and government made this happen.”
False as the regulations are not “layer upon layer”, they have repeatedly been revised, tested, and reexamined in relation to experience, as well as getting watered down by dogma against regulation.
Ludicrous as, by Timmy’s argument, regulations against murder make murders happen.
This was pretty quickly extensively fact checked and found to be the misleading furphy that one might expect it to be. It seems that the Right has become so stupid as to not even want to admit that insulation on buildings is an inherently good thing for, you know, making a residence more comfortable to live in. (The link notes how the Grenfell tower had windows that for safety reasons could not be opened far - making it hot in summer. And I assume that any residence in London benefits from insulation in winter.)
This is a case where common sense makes sense: this is a problem of inadequate/poorly designed/poorly enforced regulation. It's nonsense to take a line that it's due to over regulation.