Physicist Bee H tweeted a link to
this interview, so I presume she found it interesting. Here's the best part:
Seeing as you’re a physicist who has thought so deeply
about Gödel’s theorem, do you think the absence of a theory of
everything in mathematics suggests there might be no theory of
everything in physics?
I totally think about that. Why should we think, since physics is so
rooted in mathematics, that there is going to be a physical theory of
everything? The way we usually think about the Big Bang is: The universe
is born, and it’s born with initial data. There are laws of physics,
and somehow the initial data is just… something else. We really are
dishonest about where that comes from. What if the law of physics that
describes the origin of the universe is something that has to make a
claim about itself, which is a classic self-referential Gödelian setup
for a tangle. [A Gödelian tangle is an unprovable, self-referential
mathematical statement, such as, “This statement is unprovable.”] What
if the laws of physics have to make a claim about themselves in such a
way that they themselves become somehow uncomputable?
I’m also super interested in the idea that the initial data of the
universe could contain irrational or uncomputable numbers. Then the
universe could never finish computing the consequences of the initial
conditions. Maybe we can’t predict what’s coming next because every
digit of the initial data is a toss of a coin.
But it’s not enough if I only have words, and I’ve never found
something to write down in math, so I’ve just kind of waffled. I think a
smart thing to do would be to look at a specific Gödelian tangle that
exists in mathematics and try to map that to fictitious laws of physics.
Then you would have a universe in which there was a Gödelian tangle.
There are constructive things to try.
Long ago the mathematician, Geoffrey Chaitin, argued that by extension of Godel's Theorem even if we did develop a Theory of Everything we can never know if it is the final theory. I don't have a problem with this because I don't conceive of science as an absolute truth endeavour(ontologically). Rather, it is a means of understanding that is useful. Ontology can get stuffed. We're too stupid to ask those questions.
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