I strongly suspect that many who are outraged that some on the Left are taking a "he asked for it" line on Ngo's attack are the same people who speculate after a lone woman is raped on a dark street that, you know, women really need to be practical about this and be careful not to place themselves in danger.
[That would make for a good tweet if I could be bothered tweeting...]
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No stupid Soros the evil Jew comments either, Graeme.
My blog, my rules.
How long have the rest of you known this antifa- supporting crypto-Jew? Be hard to find a tree high enough to hang this quisling.
What was your Year 2 report card like, Graeme:
"Tries hard, but a strong tendency to daydream and a too vivid imagination. Does not always play well with others (especially with Uri, who seems to be the subject of some intense jealousy and dislike.)"
actually steve it does sound in your last few blog posts that you've been trying to blame the victim here so you should clarify the position. BTW one of Ngo's biggest supporters has been Claire Lehmann his employer. are you saying now she thinks women should be raped for wearing short skirts? care to repeat this in court?
and Graeme, no antifa are not Jewish, they are hipster scum (almost a redundancy) and it's time the cops cracked a few noses of these hipster scum
I don't know about cracking noses. But I'd use those police clubs to leave deep deep bruising on their thighs. A Hematoma trumps a team-of-homos.
Jason, I haven't really been following Lehmann at all closely, but if her tweet which you re-tweeted is anything to go by (in which she exaggerates what the Huff Post writer says in a way I think is basically dishonest), I don't hold her in very high regard.
And what a silly bit of rhetoric you're doing - similar to Lehmann actually - "so 'some' means Lehmann? that's defamatory".
As to comparing it to common responses about high profile street rapes: I think all sensible people know that both sides have some validity, and the main problem is if you take just one perspective and deny all validity of the other:
a. no woman deserves a rape anywhere, and it's pretty appalling that women have to worry about predation by males at all; in a just world women could safely walk anywhere at any time; and
b. women (and men) can agitate for change, but for now they have to take the world as it is, and not let their wish as to how it should be blind them to being cautious at times in the interests of their own safety.
It's easy to malign point b as victim blaming, and because it's so easy to do so, people should be reserved in saying it after a rape; but to their own daughters for whom causing inadvertent PC offence is less of a concern than seeing them safe, most parents have said something like it.
I thought you were all against PC offence taking, but there you go - in the culture wars you're prepared to adopt a common PC tactic. Disappointing!
I haven't read all that many takes on the Ngo matter from the Left - no doubt there are some, maybe many?, which are actually offensive if they celebrate his assault.
I also expressed concern in my own post about the masks used by antifa - that should be banned, I reckon.
But conservatives and transitioning post libertarians who don't see some less than good judgement on the part of Ngo too, and concentrate on the situation in Portland as being all initiated by Antifa, I think their partisanship is leading them to seek advantage in the culture wars in a way that's not in complete good faith.
Nuanced enough for you?
who is Ngo?
He suffered a brain bleed as a result. this is the guy that Steve is mocking https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/1146121147756556288
You've become a lot like Mark Latham, Jason. It's very unfortunate.
The fact that the guy is out of hospital and immediately is doing media when he seems to still suffering the effects of concussion indicates he's milking it for all the publicity he can get. You would feel the same way if it was some other crime victim who had a cause to promote - you would doubt his or her judgement and common sense. But you don't with Ngo because you've become obsessed with attacking only the Left side of the culture wars.
We want to get this really straight here. This is a Jew sponsored conflict for the purpose of creating violence and conflict between gentiles. This is how the Jews roll. No-one can deny this is a Soros created and sponsored hate group. Soros isn't from the famous Irish Soroses of County Cork. He is in fact a Jew.
Now because its a Jew-created conflict then it becomes not surprising when we see that the alleged Nazi side of the fight is all smoke in mirrors. No girl killed. No Nazi in the car. The person accused not a Nazi but a Jew in Nazi clobber and so forth. Because thats the entire point of the conflict. There is nothing else to it but Jews trying to bring violence between gentiles.
so to clarify steve, it's perfectly acceptable that some people just don't use the public streets because they have been targeted for bashing by a group? they should just stay inside and not use the public street at all? this is preferable to the police actually getting off their arses and arresting a bunch of cowardly masked hipster fucks?
wow,
I think birdie could have a thread of doom by himself
Birdy should have his own show like Alez Jones/Bill Hicks
Steve Bannon - if you are reading
Gee, Jason, you're being the Right wing equivalent of the "I'm being oppressed!" sequence in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Of course Ngo had the right to be there and do whatever he wanted - but did he do anything a reasonable person threatened with assault before attending might do, such as:
* advise the police that he had received specific threats, and could they suggest where he should observe the rally to maximise his safety?
* ask a friend to help out, at the very least to keep an eye out for any assailant approaching while he might be distracted taking photos;
* actually pay for a bodyguard;
* consider observing from somewhere other than the middle of the rally;
* consider disguising himself.
Maybe he did, although I don't think he has mentioned any such precautions in his media (the most he said is that he was within sight of a building which he thought would have a police presence - and that he was surprised none of them came to help him. But I am not sure whether he is saying he knows police saw what was happening to him and did nothing? I think it more likely that any police around didn't see it.)
This leaves a distinct impression that he was acting more on principle than common sense "I'm a reporter doing my job and I have a right to be on the street as much as them." Well fine. Doesn't mean he deserved to be assaulted. But does indicate he was careless about his safety, and that he went ahead anyway, and his post assault behaviour (photos up on Twitter ASAP, and turning up for interviews while still sounding not with it) indicates that he was aware that any assault that did happen would help promote his partisan "let's just concentrate on the Left side of violence in Portland" line.
This should not affect the sentence given to his assailants, by the way; but there is no reason why it shouldn't affect the degree of sympathy people feel for him. He deserves some sympathy, but not as much as a sensible, cautious person.
Try nuance for a change...
All good points about step, Jason. He’s as bad as Bird is most ways. Step is very shallow. He rails about the American right, but is silent about the extremism on the left. A total idiot
Stepford
Those leftwing goons carry blunt instruments and attacked his head to cause maximum damage. If they get shot as a result of attacking people like that, it will be a good thing. In fact I'd support the shooting of these lunatics once they attack people with blunt objects to the head. That's attempted murder in my book. Shooting them is self defense.
He's much worse than me Cambria. You know that. I like your distinction with attacks to the head also. Thats really unacceptable to cause head, spinal or facial injuries like that. I can imagine bruising someone on the shin or pushing someone in the swimming pool as a protest. But these thugs have gone way too far. Soros needs to be hauled in for questioning as well as the culprits uncovered.
Sometimes the faked events merchants don't spend enough money and time on their after-story. What happens then is that when journalists try to follow up on the faked events, they get stonewalled by the authorities. So look at Laura Ingraham absolutely stymied when she tries to ask a few questions about the Mandalay hotel shootings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHyAg_da7zE
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