Monday, August 04, 2025

More "about Gaza"

From the New York Times:

Hamas has consistently rejected Israel’s terms for ending the war throughout the negotiations. On Saturday, the group said in a statement that it would not disarm unless a Palestinian state was established, despite a call from Arab states last week for the group to do so.

The Israeli government opposes Palestinian statehood. On Sunday, Itamar Ben-Gvir, the Israeli national security minister, visited the Al Aqsa Mosque compound, which Jews revere as the Temple Mount, long a tinderbox for Israeli-Palestinian tensions. Arab leaders denounced Mr. Ben-Gvir’s ascent to the site — during which he openly prayed — as a provocation.

“It’s important to convey from this place that we should immediately conquer Gaza, exercise our sovereignty there, and eliminate every last Hamas member,” Mr. Ben-Gvir said from the site, in a video shared by his office.

Doesn't the Hamas position on disarmament show that (well intentioned) Western nations calling for a recognition of the Palestinian state at this time are not helping?   While I understand the impulse to think that it helps show Israel does not have endorsement to do what it wants, it's hard to see the optics from Hamas's view as being other than "at last, the tide is turning in our favour, and we must hold out longer." 

4 comments:

Not Trampis said...

The tide is turning in its favour?
Every government wanting a Palestinian state has stated Hams cannot be part of government

Not Trampis said...

What is the big thing about disarmament. What in the hell can they do with any arms. They rarely engage any Israeli soldiers as they hide most of the time.
My guess they would have some support from those whose relations have been murdered by the Israelis however most would blame Hamas for the war and the loss of their relations, homes, jobs etc

Anonymous said...

You don’t disarm when the enemy are genocidal lunatics known for breaking every ceasefire. Steve at this point you are just gaslighting.

Who incinerated hundreds of Jews on October 7? The Jews did. So they should disarm. Who used a nuclear bomb in Bali to kill Australians, a nuke in Lebanon to assassinate Hariri? A nuke to destroy the port?

Hamas must not disarm. When you are near genocidal cult members you stay armed at all times.

Now I am sorry to have to go over the basics, but you ought not be oppressing people with this evil genocide support.

Anonymous said...

If you guys are so base, servile, and down right retarded to doubt me on any of this I want you to THINK (can you try that for me?)

Who had the means, motive and opportunity to incinerate hundreds of Jew?

The Palestinians had no means, no motive and no opportunity.

The Jews had all three. Now I think we can rule out the Amish and the Martians right? So we do know what happened right …….RIGHT!!!!!!!

Don’t be pussy’s here. We know what the Jews did. Same as always.