Lying around the house led to me dropping back into Podbean, a podcast app that sees as good as any other. I had used it to listen to some podcasts on the flight to Singapore and back at Christmas, given that Scoot has absolutely no in-flight entertainment system. Ah, who needs it on an 8 hour flight if you have a phone with a battery that lasts that long?
Even though there are so many podcasts available, on lots of topics which I find potentially interesting, I think I have mentioned before that I have trouble getting into this internet phenomena. Not doing anything other than listening to one feels wrong, and I'm not sure why. I guess it's like listening to talk radio - I never sit down to just listen to it live, but it's perfectly fine while shaving and ironing and getting ready for work; or driving. Yes, a lot of my Radio National listening has happened while driving.
So, lying in bed and trying to listen to one just doesn't work for me. I also don't much enjoy ones where there are too many people interjecting - I tried listening to How Did This Get Made, in which a room full of people, including the quite funny Jason Mantzoukas, take apart movies which raise the titular question. It was too much, for too long. (It did convince me, though, that the 2018 movie Skyscraper is a real dud in all respects.)
But then, I had to go pick up my daughter last night and was listening to The Good Place podcast, episode one (it's hosted by the actor who plays the devil Sean in the series) and it quite enjoyable. It was more just a protracted one on one interview, and it was fine, especially as I was driving at the time.
I also tried the Scriptnotes podcast, by two genuine Hollywood screenwriters with significant credits to their name. The content seems very directed towards fellow writers, and it sounded like their industry advice was practical and likely very helpful for those trying to get a foot in the door in that business. Not sure that I am going to listen to them that much, but I did listen to an old one they did in which they analysed Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Which led to me to the transcripts of the meeting between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan in which the ideas for the movie were fleshed out from an outline created by Lucas.
Maybe I had read before, in 2013, that the transcripts were available online - it did attract some attention that year. But I don't recall going and reading them before.
It's all very satisfying, listening in, as it were, as to who came up with what idea. It's clear that an awful lot of what ended up in Temple of Doom came from those sessions too. (Essentially, they had too many ideas for one movie.)
Some of it sounds kind of racist by today's standards, and some a bit weird. George suggesting that Marion was only 12 when she fell in love with Indy, for example:
Lucas: He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.Anyway, the full transcripts go for many, many pages, and I didn't read them all.
Kasdan: And he was forty-two.
Lucas: He hasn’t seen her in twelve years. Now she’s twenty-two. It’s a real strange relationship.
Spielberg: She had better be older.
Still, it's nice to know they are there.