Thursday, April 04, 2013

But where's your paper, Salby?

Last summer was not actually angrier than other summers | The Australian

So, renegade climate scientist Murry Salby has attacked the Climate Commission claim about the last summer being anomalously hot by referring to the satellite record.   Yet I thought I read elsewhere that the satellite average temperature did not include Tasmania, which did have an unusually hot summer.  No mention of that in Murry's article.

And more importantly, Salby became a temporary star in the Right wing denial-o-sphere in 2011 by giving a talk in the Sydney Institute which was difficult to follow, but came down to his believing that CO2 was "way down the back of the line" in driving climate change.  

I remember  John Nielsen-Gammon said he saw Salby give a summary of his theory at a conference in Melbourne, and it certainly didn't convince him nor (so the impression was given) any other scientist in the room.

Yet Salby was indicating that his theory was going to be published.

I'm sure if it had been, we would have heard about it.

Salby's talk made it clear that he was pretty much a Judith Curry figure, taking an intense personal dislike to "the Team" of mainstream climate scientists for their influence and claims.  He sounded politically motivated.  The only problem,  his claim to have found the crucial flaw has come to nothing. 

Next.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi. Cathy from Crikey here. Trying to track down Salby, anyone know where he is? True that he's on an IPA tour?

Steve said...

I don't know, sorry. Macquarie Uni can't give you a hint?

Anonymous said...

o, renegade climate scientist

Just a scientist.
Why use juvenile ad homs.


Murry Salby has attacked the Climate Commission claim

Pointed out mistakes in normal practise is not an "attack".

about the last summer being anomalously hot by referring to the satellite record. Yet I thought I read elsewhere that the satellite average temperature did not include Tasmania, which did have an unusually hot summer.

wow..thats killing them with science. :)


And more importantly, Salby became a temporary star in the Right wing denial-o-sphere

1/ad homs
2/smear and sneer
3/straw man.
4/nice diversion attempt.


in 2011 by giving a talk in the Sydney Institute which was difficult to follow, but came down to his believing that CO2 was "way down the back of the line" in driving climate change.

Yep..the term your struggling to use is FEEDBACK.



and it certainly didn't convince him nor

Thats a great and in depth rebuttal..thats sarcasm by the way. :)


Yet Salby was indicating that his theory was going to be published.

And yet your knickers are in a knot about salby not publishing..but you dont say boo about the herald piece which was based on NO published paper.
If the climate commission really had all that data..then where is the paper.
Where is their paper..it would have bveen a no brainer right.
They have nothing.
So try and be balanced and go and ask them..


I'm sure if it had been, we would have heard about it.

see above

Salby's talk made it clear that he was pretty much a Judith Curry figure, taking an intense personal dislike to "the Team" of mainstream climate scientists for their influence and claims.

Yep..we are all sick of the bs claims..and sick of the papers that use proxies and then try and hide their data/dont archive and then get pulled..think of gerghis/marcott and for papers that have been eviscerated think steig/jones/mann
Yet you guys never so boo about them..because most of you dont know diddly squat about climate and think snear and smear with appeals to authority and taxes will make everything better..and your confused.. :)

He sounded politically motivated.

red herring..its science motivated..
what part of that dont you get.
Your ideologically motivated..to ignore sicence you dont agree with..but thats okay in your bubble universe right.
amazing.

The only problem, his claim to have found the crucial flaw has come to nothing.

Your whole rant came to nothing.
Who pays you for this tirade of nothing.??