Monday, December 11, 2017

IQ problem

A column in The Guardian notes this:
Research published in the journal Intelligence, a very intelligent publication, has found having a superior IQ is a “risk factor for psychological and physiological overexcitabilities”. These results are based on a survey that researchers from Pitzer College, in California, and Seattle Pacific University sent to Mensa members. To join Mensa, you have to score in the top 2% of the population on an approved intelligence test, which normally means an IQ of 132 or higher (the average being around 100). You also, I imagine, have to have a higher than average Insufferable Quotient – but that is beside the point. The survey found Mensans were more likely than the rest of the population to have conditions such as mood and anxiety disorders, allergies, asthma and autoimmune diseases.

This isn’t the first study to deduce that a great mind can weigh heavily upon someone. As the researchers note, “it is hardly a new notion that unusually high rates of adult psychopathology are displayed among some of the most eminent geniuses”. But while the research may not be revolutionary it is revelatory in relation to the current political situation. People are always wondering why Donald Trump is so temperamental and now, I think, we have the answer: his disordered moods are a result of his oversized IQ. Sad!
Obviously, the writer is not really taking the argument very seriously, and besides, the research can probably be criticised as not being about people with high IQ generally, but about those with the sort of personality who want their IQ recognized by something like joining Mensa.   But I had not realised how often Trump had claimed high IQ:
 We know that Trump has a high IQ, possibly even higher than mine if I’m being modest, because he never shuts up about it. In 2013, for example, he tweeted: “I’m a very compassionate person (with a very high IQ) with strong common sense.” He followed these pearls of wisdom with another tweet, a month later, saying: “Sorry losers and haters, but my IQ is one of the highest – and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.” In fact, he has tweeted about his IQ at least 22 times. In October, he also responded to reports that the US secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, had called him a “moron” by telling Forbes that he would beat Tillerson in an IQ test.
Says something about his narcissistic, needy personalty.  

Certainly, the lengthy New York Times piece about how he spends a huge amount of each day following TV coverage about himself (which is summarised at Axios) shows a personality you really don't want in a politician:
"Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals."
Yet this, of course, is precisely what appeals to a an element in the Right: it's the same psychological attitude I've commented on from time to time as being on regular display at Catallaxy, both in its nutty collection of commenters but also at times in Sinclair Davidson himself (and now, to an extreme extent, in Trump cultist Steve Kates.)  .   As with Trump, though, it doesn't come from a position of strength; it in fact signals resentment at being on the losing side of historical changes in everything from culture, the influence of religion on society, to economic theory.  To the extent the GOP is currently getting its way is but a temporary aberration - the damaging consequences of their attitude to everything from tax policy to climate change is entirely predictable and there is no serious view in the collective body of experts that their policies can be sustained.   

The NYT summarises Trump this way:
As he ends his first year in office, Mr. Trump is redefining what it means to be president. He sees the highest office in the land ... as a prize he must fight to protect every waking moment, and Twitter is his Excalibur. Despite all his bluster, he views himself less as a titan dominating the world stage than a maligned outsider engaged in a struggle to be taken seriously.
I wonder if Trump knows about Catch 22:  if your main obsession as a politician is to be taken seriously, you can't (and shouldn't) be taken seriously.    
  


15 comments:

not trampis said...

Telling people you have a high IQ is usually meaningless.

you have to had completed several tests. most people like myself have only done it once. ( I scored 142!!).

Therefore for most people like myself the result is meaningless. Trump has probably only done it once. Given he is now in mental decline because of his age there are now two reasons to disregard his IQ test results.

given he talks like a moron we have a third reason.

his idea of both doing an IQ test shows he has no idea of how to use IQ tests as well.

Anonymous said...

you have to had completed several tests. most people like myself have only done it once. ( I scored 142!!).

The reciprocal is what you scored. 1/142 = .0070.

Paxton, stop the bullshit. Unless you suffered early onset dementia, you've always been a dim bulb.

Anonymous said...

Stepford

Stop Paxton spreading fake news, such as his IQ estimate. It's really offensive.

Anonymous said...

There are downsides with every pol. However, with Trump I'm happy to take what he gives. Tax reform, gutting the EPA, a further deregulation of the banking system just to name a few of the good things he's done.


Unlike the left, I don't deify my favorite pols, as we're all human having downsides to our personalities.

In any event the piece is basically fakenews.


Anonymous said...

Let me be clear. Paxton claims to have an IQ of 142, which suggests he's near genius level. In the 15 years the moron has been posting comments, no one would be under any illusions that his postings suggest superior intelligence. In fact the opposite is the case. It's a laughable claim.

not trampis said...

JC still hasn't been to ESL lessons I see.
Not surprised

John said...

Hawking once said: People who boast about their IQ are losers.

Jason Soon said...

steve that was one of the most meaningless and flimsy articles you ever linked to. in the pseudoscience that is psychology, psychometrics and in particular the utility of IQ testing and its link to various outcomes through life is one of the few evidence based well established areas. so the writer just goes on to ridicule it and use it as a poor form of trump bashing which isn't particularly amusing or powerful when there are so many better ways for her to make her point. what an airhead

not trampis said...

let us look at what genius had to say about President moron as he would call him.
Tax reform. Nah just blowing the deficit as all Republicans do.
Bank de-regulation. Who benefits the consumers or producers, right first time Producers.

Who benefits from gutting the EPA. not the environment.

Crony capitalism at work yet again.

Never let it be said JC believes in a competitive market. He never has , doesn't now and never will.

He simply supports crony capitalism that blows the deficit.

What a guy.

Jason Soon said...

"Given he is now in mental decline because of his age"

You're no spring chicken Homer

One would say you were in mental decline if it weren't for the fact that you started from such a low base there wouldn't be much to decline from

Steve said...

I don't think the writer was being particularly serious, but obviously someone talking disrespectfully about high IQ people gets your goat, hey Jason?

And whether or not there is anything to the study, any person who taunts others about their higher IQ is a jerk.

Are you too humourouslessly Sailer'd up on IQ studies to acknowledge that?



not trampis said...

Oh the irony. The great fan of IQ tests did not know how to use them until I pointed it out to him.apart from Batman is there a subject Soony has actually read anything on. It sure wasn't de-regulation under TrumpYet another subject

Jason Soon said...

"Oh the irony. The great fan of IQ tests did not know how to use them until I pointed it out to him.apart"

?????

I've been following the literature on IQ tests for at least 20 years if not more.

you are quickly going senile, Paxton

not trampis said...

bollocks,

you didn't have first clue of how to use them.

You lie as bad as JC and as frequently.



John said...

Jason,

My former collaborator was a neuropsychologist who treated brain injury at a leading rehab hospital in NY. In his teens he participated in a national IQ competition and topped NY state, 14th in the USA. He hates IQ tests, he thinks they are rubbish.