Wednesday, March 04, 2020

More in the narrative "old people are killing us"

The Washington Post notes, regarding the Super Tuesday Democrat votes:
In another sign that a head-to-head featuring Sanders and Biden would mirror the 2016 primary in fundamental ways, preliminary exit polls showed a stark generational divide in support for the two septuagenarian men.

In the seven states where polls have closed so far, Sanders has led by a median 37 points among 17-to-29-year-olds and 20 points among 30-to-44-year-olds. But Biden has led by 24 among 45-to-64-year-olds and by 33 among seniors.
Mind you, I think it is really guesswork how Sanders would perform in a Presidential campaign.  On the other hand, I don't have any doubt that Biden will appear somewhat doddering and "past it" on more than one occasion.

I don't understand why Warren is not appealing to Democrats as a more youthful version of Sanders, and with more detail in her policy ideas too.   I can imagine her being more aggressive with Trump in debates than Hillary, which could play well if done right.  Will Wilkinson has expressed a fair bit of qualified support for her.

But, as we all know, American politics is a bit weird.    

Update:  just saw over a late lunch that Warren ran third in her home state of Massachusetts (!)

She's out.  

PS:  I was watching on Youtube the coverage by the Washington Post - it's very professional.  

 

11 comments:

  1. Steve Biden guarantees a loss and has no future. Sanders would probably lose and also has no future. Warren is 70 years so might scrape it in for another shot. The old farts dominate the Dems but unlike Biden Sanders and Warren are still sharp and lively.

    Biden is a disaster, the establishment candidate. The only reason the drop outs are offering support for Biden is to secure future support for their next run at the title. The Dems still don't get the fact that people want someone different. Part of Trump's appeal is that he didn't come from the traditional lines of descent.

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  2. I would be happy to see Sanders win the nomination and then the presidency just to see the last dying gasp of the neocon centrist liberals with their woke agendas and their backing from traitorous bankster classes. And Sanders first act should be to put Lloyd Blankfein on a chain gang building public toilets

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  3. What a, um, challenging mix of views you seem to carry around now, Jason. You certainly seem to follow a bunch of dills for their anti-woke, culture war-ish credentials, yet presumably would have nothing in common with them on economic grounds if you want to see a social democrat in the Presidency.

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  4. Tulsi's economics were not very different from Bernie. He won't get a lot of it up so that's OK. He will make ambit claims and we will end up somewhere in the middle

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  5. Heh. I just went and checked a list of Tulsi G's policy views, and found she is pretty strongly against nuclear power. That must irk you...

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  6. I'm with Jason on the anti-woke stuff. It has become stupid. Today Cormann commented that the Commonwealth cars will now be grey because white points to our colonial heritage. If that isn't evidence of wokeness going nuts then what is?

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  7. nobody's perfect Steve
    not even Tulsi

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  8. here's the other thing

    The billionaire class doesn't deserve the support of the Right and the Right should stop kowtowing to them and Big Tech and the banks. They have all been an active part of woke de-platforming as a start. I'm happy for Sanders to bring in antitrust law to break them up and tax the hell out of them.

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  9. "They have all been an active part of woke de-platforming as a start."

    I note you said "as a start", but as I have repeatedly indicated, if you think that that is the main problem with social media, and not its barely controlled use for the rapid spread of false claims, disinformation, dangerous rumour and propaganda, you haven't been paying attention.

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  10. No you are talking shit Steve. Alt media has no capacity to rapidly spread false claims, since they have no monopolistic power. Its the mainstream media that can carry that off. They can co-ordinate false flag attacks, such is there power. You cannot name even one incident where false claims have been spread and locked in by alternative media. This has always been a monopoly power of the mainstream. You cannot come up with even one example.

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  11. Tulsi is much more sensible than Bernie as far as reform is concerned. Bernie promises free health care, which will wind up a massive subsidy to pharmaceuticals poisoners and frauds. Whereas Tulsi wants a similar outcome but she says get these bigshots out of the room and then we can figure it out. Exactly right. You can subsidy all those things not artificially limited in supply and fail to subsidise those things involving licenses and patents, and you'll wind up being much more cost-effective. Which is what Tulsi would come up with.

    Tulsi is quite hard-headed economically. Trump has been stream-lining things for big business. Well thats had some good results. But Tulsi talks like she wants to stream-line things for the small businessman. The only danger with her is the global warming fraud. But even there she is looking for things that both sides can agree on. But I tried to do that with new soil creation and you get nowhere with these lunatics. They are allergic to science.

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