Tuesday, May 12, 2020

Wonder drug continues to be no wonder

Results of an observational study published yesterday in JAMA:
In this study, during rapidly expanding hospitalization for COVID-19, 70% of patients received hydroxychloroquine alone or with azithromycin. Patients who received hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin were more likely (relative to patients receiving neither drug) to be male, have preexisting medical conditions, and have impaired respiratory or liver function at presentation. There were no significant differences in in-hospital mortality between patients who received hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin and patients who received neither drug.

The lack of observed benefit of hydroxychloroquine associated with in-hospital mortality, following adjustment for preexisting disease and severity of illness on admission, is consistent with recently reported data from other observational studies.17,23,24

11 comments:

GMB said...

Just more bullshit. They don't want the patients to get well. HCQ always works in case studies but almost never in sponsored studies. The main reason is because the big money sponsors don't want the patients to get well. But in the case of this study its horribly mutilated from the start. Since the patients that get the antidote are the ones already in severe trouble. Else they wouldn't be getting the antidote.

The other main reason why the case studies make the HCQ work is that when the doctor wants the patient to get well he will get well. Since its not merely HCQ we need. The virus will burn through every main nutrient that is needed to kill the virus. Soon your zinc will be low, you will be way behind in vitamin C requirements. Your selenium levels will quickly be depleted, and such vitamins D3 and A that you had accumulated will be tanking. If the doctor doesn't see to it that there is ample of these nutrients and a good diet to see the patients through, then the HCQ will be rendered next to useless. But in the deep state funded studies they hide behind bullshit science norms and make sure that the only difference is the HCQ. They want to isolate the effect of the HCQ. That might be normal test procedure on animals, but if you want the patient to live you have to act accordingly.

Another problem is that the dosage in most protocols is 3 times 200 milligrams. Whilst this isn't much to people who have gotten used to HCQ from their experiences fighting malaria, it can be a big problem for your normal 8 stone woman. A lady I know gets dizzy and bloated if she takes 200 mcg. So for her the best dosage would probably be 50mcg three times a day with food. But she's breaking the pill in half and she tends to take just one a day. The key is to get in early and keep on top of the virus. Keep ahead on ALL the key nutrients and not just rely on an artificial chemical. But the people making these redundant and useless studies are only being made to do so as a stalling tactic to see everyone dead. So none of the considerations I explain above are on the agenda.

If we each had a big box of 500 HCQ at 50mcg in the pantry right next to cans of oysters then we could have the right dosage for everyone. Some people would take 5 pills a hit if it didn't make them dizzy or give them nausea. But I would suggest the idea is to take 50 mcg with a can of oysters the second you feel that tickle at the back of your throat.

GMB said...

By the studies own admission:

" Among 1438 hospitalized patients with a diagnosis of COVID-19 (858 [59.7%] male, median age, 63 years), those receiving hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, or both were more likely than those not receiving either drug to have diabetes, respiratory rate >22/min, abnormal chest imaging findings, O2 saturation lower than 90%, and aspartate aminotransferase greater than 40 U/L. "

So the group receiving the antidote were already seriously fucked up. This is right in the first paragraph of the study. In the words of the fucking study.

Lets have that retraction Steve. Learn to read scientific papers before you go bullshitting people on global warming or the right way to treat Covid 19.

GMB said...

Just a note on India. A lot of people seem to be dying of blood clotting in the U.S. You'd have to wonder how much Tumeric the Indians have in their diet, and whether this habitual usage of spices like this is helping them along. Helping them avoid these blood clotting deaths.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/platelets-cascade-dynamic-hypercoagulation-sars-cov-2-molenda/

Scroll down to the first comment:

"This is no longer a hypothesis. I hope you find this animal study interesting. Curcumin down-regulated the expression of cluster of differentiation (CD)147..... "

GMB said...

If we cannot get a retraction here; out of a lot of strong contenders, this has to be the most evil. Hopefully I've managed to neutralise the attempted wickedness of this thread.

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GMB said...

There is no substitute for wanting your people to live. The lady I'm advising was having mysterious symptoms to do with breast pain and other bodily pains. I considered that this could have been a reaction to coming off her blood pressure pills as I had advised her to do. Then I considered that it might be a side effect of the HCQ. But over time it became more clear that it was to do with the capacity of the virus has engineered into it to cause the blood to clot. So I began to panic a bit. Her mind was cloudy and she was having eye trouble. She had taken way too small amount of HCQ to have eye trouble from that but I told her not to take any more until her eyes were good. So we talked about blood thinners she had around the house.

She had red hot chilli pepper powder and she had garlic. I got her cute younger sister to go out looking for some aspirin. I warned her to look out for signs of unexplained bruising. That would tell us we had gone too far with the blood thinning.......

...Anyway once the blood thinning strategy was implemented she was okay again. We got behind the virus and it was beating her up. Now we are ahead again.

Steve said...

Graeme, if I understood your past comments correctly, this woman had a breast cancer diagnosis, but you convinced her not to have surgery? Now she is having "other bodily pains"?

If my understanding is correct, it does not augur well for her future, and I would again urge you not to advise other people to ignore proper medical advice.

GMB said...

No thats a different woman. Yes its true I stopped these poorly educated butchers from mutilating the Victorian womans breasts and poisoning her. She never has to worry about cancer again. No this is a different lady in Manilla. She was in great distress yesterday. She thinks she is better today. Which goes to show what a nasty little bugger this virus is. There is this virus, the woman's body is getting on top of the situation, and yet its screwing her up with micro-clots.

Now consider what the complexity of this bioweapon means? It means you cannot expect any bonehead study which just differentiates one variable to work. So those types of studies should never have gone ahead. A waste of time and a stalling tactic. To make someone well you have to be on their case three or four times a day. If she had been left alone with this blood clotting she could have gotten 7 shades of organ damage. And now, at least for the moment, a day later she is good.

GMB said...

The Victorian woman is healthy. The woman from Manilla at least feels healthy for the time being. But this is a fast little bugger. I actually think this one is so fast it can outrun your anti-bodies. But in these two cases, and in a third, its been a big success.

GMB said...

The cancer was easy to deal with. This virus is harder. Almost no budget to work with for the cancer. And of course when you are talking about this bioweapon and a third world country .... even less budget. But this virus has proved to be a very strange customer. If I wasn't listening to COVID lectures for the last four months this lady would have been in real trouble. But breast cancer is easy peasy.

GMB said...

My patient ran out of HCQ a couple of days back. She had a lot of vitamin C which is okay for a throat cold. But you need something extra for the lungs. So the lungs got in trouble again without the HCQ. She was having trouble breathing. She borrows 2000 pesos off her sister. And she took the full 200 milligrams dose given that she was in a bit of a panic. Now thats a low dose for some malaria old hands. But its way too much for her. Dizzy, stomach bloated, eyes not right. But she considered it a bit of an emergency. It certainly wasn't on my advice that she took the whole pill. I would have got her to chop it into three.

.... Now she's was high in vitamin C. Presumably good in the zinc department because eating a lot of duck meat. So no known deficiencies. The HCQ worked BEAUTIFULLY. Instant relief. Her breathing cleared up right away.

Viruses aren't supposed to hurt you if you've got everything sorted. Maybe the lungs could be fixed with something more natural like oregano oil with a vaporiser. I don't know. Certainly high dose vitamin C IV would chase the virus away for a couple of days. But until we are geared up for some of these alternative methods HCQ has to be considered the antidote. But the virus will be depleting you of all your necessary virus fighting nutrients. So the HCQ cannot work alone, and thats why its so easy for the oligarchy to set up the trials to fail.