Friday, September 23, 2022

Catholic conservatives still making excuses for their culture war hero, Putin

Ha!   I've been checking out the post-Catallaxy Catallaxy blogs, the two most "successful" of which are both run by conservative/reactionary Catholics Dover Beach and Currency Lad.   Here's the latest from the latter, after watching Jordan Peterson claiming last night on Piers Morgan's unwatched show that it's ridiculous to suggest Putin could lose the war:

This is worth watching for Peterson’s ‘don’t interrupt me again’ death stare alone. Morgan couldn’t resist less than 20 seconds in. As one of the more thuggish propagandists of mandates and masks (to say nothing of Zelenskyite malarkey about Ukrainian ‘democracy’), the increasingly unwatched Morgan is one to talk about lies and “terrifying his people.” My reading of Joe Biden is that he is an amoral weirdo and far more dangerous to the world than the Russian. 

What a world!   Where "conservative" reactionary Catholics have become so brainwashed in the culture wars, they prefer to support the authoritarian who murders and imprisons his opponents, and mutters about using nuclear weapons in an expansionary territorial war, because he's cosy with the Russian Orthodox and is down on the gays!

Dover Beach is no better - his comments have continually shown a "rah rah Russia" attitude to this war, and like Peterson, he's still holding out hope that the latest Putin move will mean a rapid Russian victory.

The other amusing thing about the Dover Beach blog is how clear it is how much most of the commentators really dislike each other.   The open threads are just never ending wars between characters who live online,  and gradually, the number of participants who go completely nuts increases over the years.  

Currently, it's "Custard" is showing how he has gone completely down the Qanon-ish rabbit hole, and while he is not exactly getting any support, the old timers there simply do not appreciate something I have tried to tell them many, many times:   they are in fact all major "conspiracy theory" believers in their complete denial of climate change - and now, in their "Trump probably really won the elections" belief too.   Once you swallow one or two clear conspiracy theories, really, what is stop you going whole hog?  They feel alone and abandoned in the Australian political landscape* because they are conspiracy theorists who refuse to face up to facts.   Instead, they would prefer to just endless stew in their certainty that they are right and have a true "insider" status.   The internet, Murdoch family and American Republicans are largely to blame, of course, for this epistemic crisis.  

 

* well, save for Pauline Hanson, who actually does have views most of them would support, but I suspect it might be that they consider themselves too smart to identify with someone who appears bogan-ish and less educated than them, they would find it embarrassing to admit she is one of them.

3 comments:

Not Trampis said...

agree

GMB said...

Why would you need to make an excuse for Putin? NATO tried 8 years of terrorism to get a war against Russia. They got it. 8 years of terrorism will do it every time. Are they any happier? Any happier?

The European Union boss is Usrula Von Der Leyen. Her pony got killed by a wolf. Ursula's pony and not a pony belonging to someone else.

If that isn't a foreshadowing for hardship and collapse this winter, It will do just fine until the real omen gets here.

GMB said...

You've got to try and stop being an idiot. Q Anon is one of your guys. He's one of your crowd. We are pretty sure we know who he is. Something does NOT become untrue just because this fellow says it. Yes he's disinformation but he doesn't do disinformation by way of just making anything up. Thats not how disinformation works.

Its really just got to be this decision on your part not to be a moron. A turning over of a new leaf. Ezra Cohen-Watnick is thought to be the main fellow behind team Q. He's not one of my guys. As I think you can appreciate. He sells hopium and non-action. He says "trust the plan' so that no-one actually does anything about the enemy. This was a technique they put together in the Soviet Union.

Now stop being such a stupid prick about him.