Wednesday, November 22, 2023

Sure, the Voice would have worked in presenting unified advice to government...

I always said that if the Voice succeeded, history showed that we could expect many of its recommendations to immediately be the subject of dispute within the wider indigenous community, leaving governments back to square one as to who they should listen to, given there was no obligation to adhere to Voice recommendations.

There is no better evidence for this pessimistic take than the sudden rush to endorse everything Palestine, so to speak, by the more radical side of aboriginal politics, and the counter-position put up by Marcia Langton:


 

The "scumbag" Tanuki refers to is Langton, who had written in The Australian:

“As an Indigenous Australian, I can have little effect in stopping these horrors but it is necessary to be clear about a few matters. “Blak sovereignty” advocates have entwined two extraordinary propositions – one that is simply untrue and one that is a moral outrage.

First, they claim that “Indigenous Australians feel solidarity with Palestinians”. This is false; it is the view of a tiny few, if put in those words. Most of us are aware of the complexity and that there is very little comparable in our respective situations, other than our humanity. 

Second, they refuse to condemn Hamas. I am aghast and embarrassed. They do not speak for me. I fear and loathe the possibility of further loss of life in this terrible crisis. I fear also that our multicultural society is being torn apart by people deluded about terrorism who have used their protests as a cover for anti-Semitism.

Our Jewish and Palestinian communities deserve respect and compassion. I do not support the violence we have seen in Australia recently as a result of this conflict.

Hamas are terrorists; Palestinian Islamic Jihad are terrorists. The slogan “Not all Palestinians are Hamas” denies the fact that innocent Palestinians are being used as human shields by these terrorists. 

No legitimate Aboriginal leader will permit our movement to be associated with terrorists. I can state confidently, based on my long experience in Aboriginal communities and giving advice to Indigenous corporations, that the majority Aboriginal view is a repulsion of terrorism.”

Adam Briggs, the guy so into aboriginal culture he makes a living by copying American black culture, thinks that we shouldn't be using this against them.  Because, I don't know, it's unfair to point to the poisonous, fractious nature of indigenous politics amongst the indigenous?:


 I agree with these views, by the way:

Oh, and in other "everything's OK in the world of aboriginal academia" tweets:


Blackwell is an academic (well, research fellow) at ANU who has been on The Drum and other ABC shows, apparently, and is Lefty enough to tweet a lot of support for Palestine.  But he obviously can't stand Watego.

The thing you can't click on in that tweet:


Soon, the grounds of Queensland University of Technology (QUT) will be a place where Indigenous wisdom and culture is not only celebrated but given an intellectual space that supports Blak excellence and innovation.

The new faculty of Indigenous Knowledges and Culture, announced this week, will operate as a stand-alone faculty, and will deliver academic programs and conduct research.

Angela Barney-Leitch, QUT’s Deputy Vice-Chancellor of Indigenous Australians, told NITV that the faculty could influence other academic disciplines.

"The idea for us now is to focus on what Indigenous knowledges means to all knowledge ... and what difference it can make to the way people at university look at different issues and problems and perspectives."

"It's going to be like a whole Indigenous learning community.

"And the good thing about it for all Australians is that non-Indigenous students and staff can be part of this, but it will be Indigenous led."

Professor Chelsea Watego, QUT’s Carumba Institute Executive Director, told NITV that the new faculty will be a welcoming space that counters colonial narratives.

"The faculty that we will offer here will provide so many of our Blackfullas with the kind of environment to know who they are [and] where they come from.

"[The faculty] contests the violent knowledges that have been produced about us, that hold systems accountable, that should be doing better."

I have posted about Watego before.   She seems very talented at losing court cases against her previous university, and the police, at least.  But here are her hopes for her new faculty:

"I think the exciting part for non-Indigenous students is when your foreground Indigenous intellectual sovereignty there's a whole different understanding of humanity," she said.

"What I find when we bring non-Indigenous people along into these spaces, is the way in which they reconfigure themselves in their relationship to this place, but also what it means to be human."

By centring Indigenous knowledges, Professor Watego believes other areas of learning can see radical change.

"And there are really exciting transformative possibilities of rethinking what it means to be a nurse, an engineer, or teacher or social worker when you operate on an Indigenous terms of reference."

"You can't even begin to imagine the transformative possibilities and that's the exciting thing for me to be a part of, is to see what our people can do with the tools of these institutions for the betterment of our mob," she said.

It used to be said that any new University in Australia would open a law school because it was relatively cheap and sounded semi-prestigious to have such a discipline in your faculty.

It now seems that any University will seek "social conscience" credit points by giving well paid jobs to female academics fully into the self serving piffle that the academic Left creates for itself.  

I suspect that QUT will find appointing Watego as its head will all end in tears, actually.

Update:   I see Margaret Sheil, the VC and President of QUT, was in the news recently for another reason:

  • QUT has doubled down on its plans to remove references to "merit" from its hiring policy
  • Vice-chancellor Margaret Sheil says supposedly merit-based recruitments are actually swayed by unconscious bias
  • Professor Sheil says the new approach will factor in gender, ethnicity, and departmental balance

Wow.  Seems a sound way to undermine a university's reputation, if you ask me!

What is her background?   A little to my surprise, it's in chemistry and the sciences.

Hmmm. 

9 comments:

Not Trampis said...

Are you taking catallaxy pills?

you cannot compare ONE person's opinion ( pretty good opinion IMHO) and peoples reaction to an opinion based on a collective mind.

As the Aboriginal community are full of individuals then yes people will disagree. this is not a bad thing.
A politician has to decide which opinion to make policy on.

Steve said...
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Steve said...

Lol.

To tell the truth, it does worry me that I am increasingly sounding like I am taking the Bolt/Catallaxy side on the general issue of aboriginal politics.

But I am more and more convinced that the worst of Left wing self serving analysis (with the rapid increase of "anti-colonial" rhetoric) is dangerous and harmful to their (and everyone's) interests, and (distressingly) it is being hosted and encouraged by the University sector. And it feels very Right wing reactionary to say it, but it seems that it has become a particular cottage industry for female academics, many with little apparent life connection to the aboriginal communities most in need.

And at the end of the day, you seem to agree with me, re the Voice would have ended up just one of many "voices" from within the indigenous community. So why bother? Put the money spent on a new bureaucracy more directly where it's needed.

John said...

It will be interesting to see what now happens with indigenous affairs. The matter has gone quiet, it wasn't just the loss but that it was such a big loss. It seems that while many high profile figures from politics, the media, academia, and business were fully behind the Voice, the broader public harbour concerns that the indigenous activists are not representative of the indigenous population and nor do they have the solutions that indigenous people so sorely need. I don't have the solutions but like the majority of Aussies I also don't think the activists have the answers. Fresh eyes, fresh voices, that will be helpful.

Steve said...

"Fresh eyes, fresh voices, that will be helpful."

I agree totally, but the problem is there is no sign of them. As I complained, Jacinta Price and Warren Mundine are both flakey and prone to saying silly things from the Right side of the issue.

But what is worse is the young who embrace the stupid "decolonisation" talk - as silly and impractical as muddle-headed communists marching in the streets in the 60's and 70's as if it were viable for the West to turn its back on the capitalism, and the post-modernists who followed later.

Langton tries to walk a line between both worlds - she did, after all, more or less support the intervention, and now sounds relatively sensible on Palestine/Israel; but she also panders to the Lefty attempt at re-invention of aboriginal culture as something as complicated and valuable as what much of the rest of the world was up to when it was actually building things, writing stories and creating the technology that we rely on today. She has ended up convincing few people to follow her, and seems willing to concede a position as "yesterday's woman" now. As should Pearson.

There is really no one on the horizon who I reckon succeeds in talking about the problems in a satisfactory way, and that's a worry. Instead, it's freakin universities throwing money at "feel good" faculties willing to buy into Lefty semi-revolutionary language.

It is a pretty dire situation...

John said...

"There is really no one on the horizon who I reckon succeeds in talking about the problems in a satisfactory way, and that's a worry. Instead, it's freakin universities throwing money at "feel good" faculties willing to buy into Lefty semi-revolutionary language."

Sad but true. I'm hoping the current silence reflects a reappraisal of their approach to the challenges. Yeah Steve probably wishful thinking on my part.

The Left and right approach this from seemingly contradictory perspectives. The left focuses on environmental and historical factors, the right on personal responsibility. I don't see either as mutually exclusive. It is important to acknowledge causes of behavior that are not within the individual but that does not mean the individual is fated to the consequences of those causes. A personal philosophy grounded in a stoic attitude and focusing on what can be done today to improve one's position is a causal agent that can hugely benefit some people. It doesn't wipe away other causes but it helps prevent despair and hopelessness.

If we want to identify what causal agents can make a difference we should look into the lives of indigenous activists and other indigenous people who are flourishing. What is it about their past and their personal philosophy that has enabled them to overcome the trauma of their ancestral and personal past? Strikes me as odd, and strangely funny, that for all the talk about overcoming indigenous disadvantage, the most important insights might be gained by examining the lives of activists.

Not Trampis said...

Steve,

you cannot compare 'feedback' on one person to that of a voice comprised of elected officials.

Anonymous said...

The Voice was an obvious Deep State power play trying to railroad us.

But what I hated was the laziness of it
If the problem is that we are not listening the MP’s have to get out to the locations. Talk to the Elders. Walk around and get that ground truth.

But no they don’t want to listen but they want to adopt a constitutionally reckless idea where they will not listen even harder.

TimT said...

Adam Briggs, the guy so into aboriginal culture he makes a living by copying American black culture

Very enjoyable snark, but perhaps a little unfair - American culture is so dominant that everyone imitates it. Even - especially - progressives who proclaim that the US capitalist hegemony should be rejected, and decide they are independent of it.

But what I really wonder about is who this Tanuki guy is, he keeps on appearing, making pronouncements as if from on high about some culture war issue or other.